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Discussions elsewhere led to talk of the Rules for dating. I remembered some of this from various media fuss a few years back but thought I'd go refresh my memory. and O.M.G.
http://www.therulesbook.com/
Do people expect this crap to work? Does any woman actually WANT a guy who falls for this crap?

Here they are... In summary at least. Apparently tehre are at least 3 books you have to buy to get the full set.



1. Be a "creature unlike any other." - helo I am a UNICORN *prance prance*. That'd work down the pub.
2. Don't talk to a man first (and don't ask him to dance) - Basically, sit down, shut up and Know Your Place.
3. Don't meet him halfway or go dutch with him on a date. Because all men want is more dependants to make them feel Manly and needed?
4. Don't call him and rarely return his phone calls. Well I can see "don't call 3 times a day for weeks after you first meet' (hi [livejournal.com profile] mivvvv) but surely if you never bothered, he'd just give up? And isn't not return calls just plain rude?
5. Always end phone calls first. huh? WHY? WHY?
6. Don't accept a Saturday night date after Wednesday. "Why I'm terribly sorry sir, my Dance Card is full" Nope. Sit at home bored and lonely but secure in the knowledge he's off out having fun with a girl with SENSE.
7. Always end the date first. again WHY? and how? bugger off half way through dinner? Watch his every move for signs he may be Ending The Date and scram?
8. Stop dating him if he doesn't buy you a romantic gift for your birthday or Valentines day. Yes, because you don't want a companion, you just want PRESENTS. Buy Me Pretty things or NO SEX FOR YOU!
9. Don't see him more than once or twice a week. because keeping up this false facade is bloody difficult and since that's what he's presumably meant to be falling for we can't risk him discovering the Real You!
10. No more than casual kissing on the first date. What exactly constitues casual kissing? And how do you a. tell and b. stop it when it becomes more business like?
11. Don't tell him what to do. Back to Woman, KNOW YOUR PLACE I fear.
12. Don't expect a man to change or try to change him. well.. this one isn't so bad. Because if you dont' like him the way he is now, why bother? Instead of trying to make this one into that one, just go get that one!
13. Don't open up too fast. Um. I'm guessing they mean emotionally here. No Sobbing on a First Date Girls. Now I know where I've gone wrong all these years!
14. Don't date a married man. Again, they may be going with the slightly too obvious here. Are there any Rules for People With IQs Above 60? or are they just assuming girls=teh dumb?
15. Be easy to live with. WKYP yet again.
16. Don't stare at men or talk too much. WTF? Seriously WTF? NO LOOKING. Only Speak When Spoken to! CF 15, 11 & 2
17. Don't live with a man (or leave your things in his apartment). Because if you do he'll never marry you! Remember luring him into MARRIAGE under false pretenses is what we're all about here! See http://www.therulesbook.com/rule8.html for further clarification of this.
18.Even if you're engaged or married, you still need the rules. You mean once he's snared I can't drop the pretense? Fuck.
19. Do the Rules even when your friends or parents think you're nuts! I think that one says it all really.
20 Be Smart and other rules for dating in high school.
21 Take Care of yourself and other Rules for dating in college. I'm assuming this and 20 are Other Books you have to buy.
22 Next! And other Rules for dealing with Rejection. I'm assuming this, 20 & 21 are Other Books you have to buy. BUT surely if I follow The Rules I will never be rejected because all men REALLY want a stepford wife?
23 Don't discuss the Rules with your therapist. because s/he might actually talk some sense in you and tell you to grow up and act like an Actual Person not a barbie doll.
24Don't break the Rules. You'll get seven years back luck and die alone and be eaten by alasations!!1!1!1!!
25Do the Rules and you'll live happily ever after. Just like Snow White and Cinderella and all those other fairy tale princesses who's fairy tales ended the second they got married. Probably in more ways than one.
26Love only those who love you. I think this trite piece of meaningless self-help clap trap just about rounds it all off nicely



*boggles*

Is this some sort of American thing I don't get? Do you really have to be a Stepford Wife out there to trap get your man? Because nothing says Love like completely surpressing your personality!
Actually I'm fairly sure it's a complete load of bollocks and crap like this is why people assume all single women are desperate predators out stalking for fresh meat to drag back to the cage.
Are there any guys out there this WOULD work on (other than [livejournal.com profile] malvino Ladies, we have a target!)?
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Date: 2006-01-23 08:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mollow.livejournal.com
- Stop dating him if he doesn't buy you a romantic gift for your birthday or Valentines day. - Haha I love this one. Although my problem would be trying to remember the birthday date in the first place

-Don't expect a man to change or try to change him. - I agree 100% with this. I will NEVER like onions or garlic so stop trying to sneak it into my food!!!!!

- Don't tell him what to do - I.e. Don't Nag. Again a sound piece of advice.

- Be easy to live with - Definately. To ensure this you should go away to some sort of commune when it's that certain time of the month.

- Don't live with a man (or leave your things in his apartment) - Very true. My room used to be so tidy. Alas now it has various bottles of things and strange torture like equipment designed to pluck eyebrows

Date: 2006-01-23 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiquetoque.livejournal.com
That's just 'cos I'm HAWT.

Date: 2006-01-23 08:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellison.livejournal.com
Why yes it is. Would you like to tell me more all about your opinions, because I have none of my own?

I like Kittens.

Date: 2006-01-23 08:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_unhurt_/
tea in keyboard, woman. don't do that! i could HEAR your tone of voice, even!

Date: 2006-01-23 08:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_unhurt_/
but there are onions in so many kinds of food. what do you EAT?

p.s. i am now hearing harry enfield doing 'Women, Know Your Place' educational films.

Date: 2006-01-23 08:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] being-here.livejournal.com
Oooh. Getting married is fun. You get people buying you drinks because it looks funny that you're in a big frock and drinking pints :) And you can sing at everyone and no-one minds.

The hedgehog song is best of course. That always makes friends and influences people, and frankly if they want to date you after you've sung it (on the table, with actions) you're onto a winner.

Date: 2006-01-23 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mollow.livejournal.com
I have to ask for food without it. I have successfully ordered garlic bread without the garlic before. The worst is when they sneak little bits of onion into rice. It can take ages trying to dissect the food! ;p

Date: 2006-01-23 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellison.livejournal.com
Hmm, I have words to the hedgehog song (and many of them, yay for discworld mud) but no idea of the tune.

Mind you I can't actaully sing in anything approaching tune anyway, so that shouldn't really stop me ;p

Date: 2006-01-23 09:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellison.livejournal.com
Isn't that just... bread? But as a fellow Avoider of Certain (tho different) Foods I am entirely with you on the dissecting. There could be ANYTHING in there. Even Sweetcorn *shudders*

Date: 2006-01-23 09:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellison.livejournal.com
Hush, I am practising trying to Flutter My Eyelashes while Looking Interested and Asking How Your Day Went all at the same time.

It's HARD being a girl :/

Date: 2006-01-23 09:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellison.livejournal.com
ps actions?? I am now Intrigued and wish to know more.

Date: 2006-01-23 09:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] being-here.livejournal.com
Ahem... yes.

It was a murky piece of my past. I made the tune up as I went along.

The actions seemed to help people forgive any ... inadequacies... in the tune.

*shuffles feet*

Date: 2006-01-23 09:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malvino.livejournal.com
I'll be playing rugby on the Saturday afternoon, hopefully, unless I'm banned (I have my discipliniary thisevening, could be out for 6 months). If I'm not banned I could well tag along, do we get duck hats?

Date: 2006-01-23 09:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_unhurt_/
mmmm. sweet, sweet sweetcorn. very nice on pizza.

here, do you eat corn on the cob?

Date: 2006-01-23 09:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellison.livejournal.com
No idea tho in Dublin, we got viking helmets, so who knows ;)

Good luck with the disciplinary thing!

Date: 2006-01-23 09:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreammonkey.livejournal.com
Hahahaha!
Each and every one is a priceless piece of comedic genius!

Almost as good as Teh Druid Rant :)

Date: 2006-01-23 09:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellison.livejournal.com
NO. It is is Wrong.

Date: 2006-01-23 09:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellison.livejournal.com
*grins* It may even top it ;p If we actually do Getafix meet, we will be able to hone Teh Druid Rant to precision!

Hmm. I need my Knowth spirally stone icon back again.

Date: 2006-01-23 09:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dasquian.livejournal.com
Dare I ask what Teh Druid Rant is? :)

Date: 2006-01-23 09:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellison.livejournal.com
Druids Did Not Build Stonehenge. Or Newgrange. Or Carnac. Or Any other Big stone monument You Care to Mention. NO, not that one either.

And so on ;p

Date: 2006-01-23 09:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_unhurt_/
but it's tasty. and it's not like it's green - knowing how you feel about green foodstuffs with the possible exception of petit pois.

Date: 2006-01-23 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleetersoulfire.livejournal.com
From the blurb for rule three:
"How can you know for sure? If he's never asked you out, then he's not interested!

Right... because Men aren't ever shy, or nervous?

From rule eight:
"If you've followed The Rules, your man probably loves you and wants to marry you. Your problem is not if he marries you, but when! If it's been more than a year, see less of him and think about dating others. You've already spent more than a year waiting for him to propose; do you have another year to wait?"

... WTF?

Seriously, do people who are vacuous enough to listen to this trip only live for three years? Can they not spare more than two years to ensure their Man is right for them?

From rule nine:
"Is he cheap on dates?"

Don't go for poor people! They are Mr Wrongs, all of them!

Also from nine:
"It's about marrying your own personal Mr. Right -- a man whom you love and whose character you admire and can live with."

If he doesn't spend enough on you then he can't be Mr Right. Only people who are frivolous with their money are good people!

Or in other words: Be good little consumers, and Women Know Your Limits!

Date: 2006-01-23 09:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleetersoulfire.livejournal.com
Mmmmmmm, sweet sweet corn... *drools*

God's own Golden Food.

Date: 2006-01-23 09:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleetersoulfire.livejournal.com
Women, Know Your Limits!

Date: 2006-01-23 10:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leeda.livejournal.com
lets go ICE SKATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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