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hellisonDiscussions elsewhere led to talk of the Rules for dating. I remembered some of this from various media fuss a few years back but thought I'd go refresh my memory. and O.M.G.
http://www.therulesbook.com/
Do people expect this crap to work? Does any woman actually WANT a guy who falls for this crap?
Here they are... In summary at least. Apparently tehre are at least 3 books you have to buy to get the full set.
1. Be a "creature unlike any other." - helo I am a UNICORN *prance prance*. That'd work down the pub.
2. Don't talk to a man first (and don't ask him to dance) - Basically, sit down, shut up and Know Your Place.
3. Don't meet him halfway or go dutch with him on a date. Because all men want is more dependants to make them feel Manly and needed?
4. Don't call him and rarely return his phone calls. Well I can see "don't call 3 times a day for weeks after you first meet' (hi![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
mivvvv) but surely if you never bothered, he'd just give up? And isn't not return calls just plain rude?
5. Always end phone calls first. huh? WHY? WHY?
6. Don't accept a Saturday night date after Wednesday. "Why I'm terribly sorry sir, my Dance Card is full" Nope. Sit at home bored and lonely but secure in the knowledge he's off out having fun with a girl with SENSE.
7. Always end the date first. again WHY? and how? bugger off half way through dinner? Watch his every move for signs he may be Ending The Date and scram?
8. Stop dating him if he doesn't buy you a romantic gift for your birthday or Valentines day. Yes, because you don't want a companion, you just want PRESENTS. Buy Me Pretty things or NO SEX FOR YOU!
9. Don't see him more than once or twice a week. because keeping up this false facade is bloody difficult and since that's what he's presumably meant to be falling for we can't risk him discovering the Real You!
10. No more than casual kissing on the first date. What exactly constitues casual kissing? And how do you a. tell and b. stop it when it becomes more business like?
11. Don't tell him what to do. Back to Woman, KNOW YOUR PLACE I fear.
12. Don't expect a man to change or try to change him. well.. this one isn't so bad. Because if you dont' like him the way he is now, why bother? Instead of trying to make this one into that one, just go get that one!
13. Don't open up too fast. Um. I'm guessing they mean emotionally here. No Sobbing on a First Date Girls. Now I know where I've gone wrong all these years!
14. Don't date a married man. Again, they may be going with the slightly too obvious here. Are there any Rules for People With IQs Above 60? or are they just assuming girls=teh dumb?
15. Be easy to live with. WKYP yet again.
16. Don't stare at men or talk too much. WTF? Seriously WTF? NO LOOKING. Only Speak When Spoken to! CF 15, 11 & 2
17. Don't live with a man (or leave your things in his apartment). Because if you do he'll never marry you! Remember luring him into MARRIAGE under false pretenses is what we're all about here! See http://www.therulesbook.com/rule8.html for further clarification of this.
18.Even if you're engaged or married, you still need the rules. You mean once he's snared I can't drop the pretense? Fuck.
19. Do the Rules even when your friends or parents think you're nuts! I think that one says it all really.
20 Be Smart and other rules for dating in high school.
21 Take Care of yourself and other Rules for dating in college. I'm assuming this and 20 are Other Books you have to buy.
22 Next! And other Rules for dealing with Rejection. I'm assuming this, 20 & 21 are Other Books you have to buy. BUT surely if I follow The Rules I will never be rejected because all men REALLY want a stepford wife?
23 Don't discuss the Rules with your therapist. because s/he might actually talk some sense in you and tell you to grow up and act like an Actual Person not a barbie doll.
24Don't break the Rules. You'll get seven years back luck and die alone and be eaten by alasations!!1!1!1!!
25Do the Rules and you'll live happily ever after. Just like Snow White and Cinderella and all those other fairy tale princesses who's fairy tales ended the second they got married. Probably in more ways than one.
26Love only those who love you. I think this trite piece of meaningless self-help clap trap just about rounds it all off nicely
*boggles*
Is this some sort of American thing I don't get? Do you really have to be a Stepford Wife out there totrap get your man? Because nothing says Love like completely surpressing your personality!
Actually I'm fairly sure it's a complete load of bollocks and crap like this is why people assume all single women are desperate predators out stalking for fresh meat to drag back to the cage.
Are there any guys out there this WOULD work on (other thanmalvino Ladies, we have a target!)?
http://www.therulesbook.com/
Do people expect this crap to work? Does any woman actually WANT a guy who falls for this crap?
Here they are... In summary at least. Apparently tehre are at least 3 books you have to buy to get the full set.
1. Be a "creature unlike any other." - helo I am a UNICORN *prance prance*. That'd work down the pub.
2. Don't talk to a man first (and don't ask him to dance) - Basically, sit down, shut up and Know Your Place.
3. Don't meet him halfway or go dutch with him on a date. Because all men want is more dependants to make them feel Manly and needed?
4. Don't call him and rarely return his phone calls. Well I can see "don't call 3 times a day for weeks after you first meet' (hi
mivvvv) but surely if you never bothered, he'd just give up? And isn't not return calls just plain rude?5. Always end phone calls first. huh? WHY? WHY?
6. Don't accept a Saturday night date after Wednesday. "Why I'm terribly sorry sir, my Dance Card is full" Nope. Sit at home bored and lonely but secure in the knowledge he's off out having fun with a girl with SENSE.
7. Always end the date first. again WHY? and how? bugger off half way through dinner? Watch his every move for signs he may be Ending The Date and scram?
8. Stop dating him if he doesn't buy you a romantic gift for your birthday or Valentines day. Yes, because you don't want a companion, you just want PRESENTS. Buy Me Pretty things or NO SEX FOR YOU!
9. Don't see him more than once or twice a week. because keeping up this false facade is bloody difficult and since that's what he's presumably meant to be falling for we can't risk him discovering the Real You!
10. No more than casual kissing on the first date. What exactly constitues casual kissing? And how do you a. tell and b. stop it when it becomes more business like?
11. Don't tell him what to do. Back to Woman, KNOW YOUR PLACE I fear.
12. Don't expect a man to change or try to change him. well.. this one isn't so bad. Because if you dont' like him the way he is now, why bother? Instead of trying to make this one into that one, just go get that one!
13. Don't open up too fast. Um. I'm guessing they mean emotionally here. No Sobbing on a First Date Girls. Now I know where I've gone wrong all these years!
14. Don't date a married man. Again, they may be going with the slightly too obvious here. Are there any Rules for People With IQs Above 60? or are they just assuming girls=teh dumb?
15. Be easy to live with. WKYP yet again.
16. Don't stare at men or talk too much. WTF? Seriously WTF? NO LOOKING. Only Speak When Spoken to! CF 15, 11 & 2
17. Don't live with a man (or leave your things in his apartment). Because if you do he'll never marry you! Remember luring him into MARRIAGE under false pretenses is what we're all about here! See http://www.therulesbook.com/rule8.html for further clarification of this.
18.Even if you're engaged or married, you still need the rules. You mean once he's snared I can't drop the pretense? Fuck.
19. Do the Rules even when your friends or parents think you're nuts! I think that one says it all really.
20 Be Smart and other rules for dating in high school.
21 Take Care of yourself and other Rules for dating in college. I'm assuming this and 20 are Other Books you have to buy.
22 Next! And other Rules for dealing with Rejection. I'm assuming this, 20 & 21 are Other Books you have to buy. BUT surely if I follow The Rules I will never be rejected because all men REALLY want a stepford wife?
23 Don't discuss the Rules with your therapist. because s/he might actually talk some sense in you and tell you to grow up and act like an Actual Person not a barbie doll.
24Don't break the Rules. You'll get seven years back luck and die alone and be eaten by alasations!!1!1!1!!
25Do the Rules and you'll live happily ever after. Just like Snow White and Cinderella and all those other fairy tale princesses who's fairy tales ended the second they got married. Probably in more ways than one.
26Love only those who love you. I think this trite piece of meaningless self-help clap trap just about rounds it all off nicely
*boggles*
Is this some sort of American thing I don't get? Do you really have to be a Stepford Wife out there to
Actually I'm fairly sure it's a complete load of bollocks and crap like this is why people assume all single women are desperate predators out stalking for fresh meat to drag back to the cage.
Are there any guys out there this WOULD work on (other than
malvino Ladies, we have a target!)?
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Date: 2006-01-23 07:44 am (UTC)Good god! Why bother treating people with respect when you can emotionally cripple yourself, entrap a poor innocent and basically screw up everything and everyone so much that the only survivors will be ants, cockroaches and psychotherapists?
*incoherent rage*
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Date: 2006-01-23 07:51 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2006-01-23 07:59 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-01-23 07:59 am (UTC)the most useful quote i found was along the lines of: do you really want a man who you have to lure with bait, play and reel in? wouldn't that be a bit like going out with an, um, fish. (not that i'm knocking fishing; i have done some fishing and i enjoyed it plenty. i just don't think it teaches skills taht should be applied to one's personal life)
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Date: 2006-01-23 08:00 am (UTC)And I think Rule 16 and the other WKYP rules rule me out of the hypothetical group of men the rules work on - how the hell are you supposed to go out with someone who won't talk about themselves? I guess it's rules like this that were the inspiration for characters like Bree from Desperate Housewives ;)
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Date: 2006-01-23 08:01 am (UTC)I don't think I'd want a man who wants the kind of woman you have to pretend to be to snare him anyway. Um. If you see what I mean there ;p
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Date: 2006-01-23 08:02 am (UTC)cunning!
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Date: 2006-01-23 08:04 am (UTC)Yeah, that was me again ;p
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Date: 2006-01-23 08:04 am (UTC)And anonymous, they're supposed to talk about YOU all the time because that's all men want to do. Obviously ;p
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Date: 2006-01-23 08:06 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-01-23 08:08 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-01-23 08:09 am (UTC)Obviously she needs The RULEZ
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Date: 2006-01-23 08:12 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-01-23 08:16 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-01-23 08:18 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-01-23 08:19 am (UTC)And totally miss the repressed homicidal rage you were manifesting of course.
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Date: 2006-01-23 08:19 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-01-23 08:20 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-01-23 08:25 am (UTC)The dublin one was lame, but fun, this looks much the same! Plus it gets you out in the fresh air without involving much walking or effort of any kind ;p
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Date: 2006-01-23 08:28 am (UTC)...
They're a bit crap really, aren't they?
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Date: 2006-01-23 08:28 am (UTC)Well that, and not particularly *wanting* to get married :p
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Date: 2006-01-23 08:29 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-01-23 08:30 am (UTC)You could pretty much replace all of them with Sit down, Shut up and Know Your Place.