It was this part of the article that I was referring to (albeit not very clearly, reading thro red mist BAD) -
"By date rape I mean non-consensual sex, but without the threat or use of violence. Factor in aggression and it automatically becomes rape, regardless of circumstances."
Because she seems to be saying that no violence = not rape, again, bringing the blame back to the woman for being so drunk/unconcious she didn't need to be restrained. As far as I'm concerned, any non-consenual sex IS rape regardless of circumstances and I just don't get how she can argue differently.
Clarity with two drunk people is always going to be tricky, and we have all responsibility for our own safety, but if someone is so drunk they're NOT aware of their surroundings, then surely it's better NOT to have sex with them?
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Date: 2008-09-04 05:12 pm (UTC)"By date rape I mean non-consensual sex, but without the threat or use of violence. Factor in aggression and it automatically becomes rape, regardless of circumstances."
Because she seems to be saying that no violence = not rape, again, bringing the blame back to the woman for being so drunk/unconcious she didn't need to be restrained. As far as I'm concerned, any non-consenual sex IS rape regardless of circumstances and I just don't get how she can argue differently.
Clarity with two drunk people is always going to be tricky, and we have all responsibility for our own safety, but if someone is so drunk they're NOT aware of their surroundings, then surely it's better NOT to have sex with them?