What Is Wrong With the World??
Sep. 4th, 2008 11:56 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
hellison1. headline from bbcni re cervical cancer jab - "Girls urged to ABSTAIN in jab row"
why? Because its a dirty cancer you can get from SEX and obviously if you've been having sex you deserve it. Or... something.
More from the helpful FAQ here -
Colin Hart, Director of The Christian Institute, said the way to tackle the problem was not to offer injections, but to tell girls not to have under-age sex.
Ahh. So it's only *underage* sex that causes cancer. Good Girls won't get it, and thus don't need vaccinated. Well that's all clear then!
I know there are Other Issues around the vaccination and which version was chosen etc, but that's not what these people are saying. They're saying girls shouldn't be vaccinated against a potentially TERMINAL DISEASE, because then they might have sex! And we can't have that!!
Would there be the same outcry if it was discovered testicular cancer was also linked to a virus and teenage boys were offered it?
2. This article about date rape is making my head explode with WTF and RAGE. Because obviously if you go drinking with a guy who turns out not to care whether or not you're concious when he gets off on/in you, well that's YOUR fault you silly loose drunken woman. It's not like he's done anything WRONG, or should face any consequences for it! SKIN CRAWLING NOW.
SEND KITTENS PLZ. NEED HAPPY THOUGHTS.
ETA New Mistful Fic! and at lunchtime too. Couldn't have been better timed.
EDIT 2 - just to add, now the original RAGE has calmed slightly, this turned into a thought provoking discussion; a timely reminder the world isn't completley full of morons. Or at least my flist isn't ;) Thanks!
AAAAND if we can keep it civil kids, that would be good.![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
_unhurt_, I still have crutches. And I know where you live. Keep up the ranting tho. Rants Good. CIder better. MOAR CIDER
why? Because its a dirty cancer you can get from SEX and obviously if you've been having sex you deserve it. Or... something.
More from the helpful FAQ here -
Colin Hart, Director of The Christian Institute, said the way to tackle the problem was not to offer injections, but to tell girls not to have under-age sex.
Ahh. So it's only *underage* sex that causes cancer. Good Girls won't get it, and thus don't need vaccinated. Well that's all clear then!
I know there are Other Issues around the vaccination and which version was chosen etc, but that's not what these people are saying. They're saying girls shouldn't be vaccinated against a potentially TERMINAL DISEASE, because then they might have sex! And we can't have that!!
Would there be the same outcry if it was discovered testicular cancer was also linked to a virus and teenage boys were offered it?
2. This article about date rape is making my head explode with WTF and RAGE. Because obviously if you go drinking with a guy who turns out not to care whether or not you're concious when he gets off on/in you, well that's YOUR fault you silly loose drunken woman. It's not like he's done anything WRONG, or should face any consequences for it! SKIN CRAWLING NOW.
SEND KITTENS PLZ. NEED HAPPY THOUGHTS.
ETA New Mistful Fic! and at lunchtime too. Couldn't have been better timed.
EDIT 2 - just to add, now the original RAGE has calmed slightly, this turned into a thought provoking discussion; a timely reminder the world isn't completley full of morons. Or at least my flist isn't ;) Thanks!
AAAAND if we can keep it civil kids, that would be good.
_unhurt_, I still have crutches. And I know where you live. Keep up the ranting tho. Rants Good. CIder better. MOAR CIDER
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Date: 2008-09-05 11:46 am (UTC)YOUR answer is not to fuck people who are passing out. which apparently you don't. so you're probably ok. maybe more men should try this approach!
some men seem pretty hazy on what consent actually implies. like the woman i know who shared a room with her ex at a house party they had been invited to before they split up. a room they agreed to share as friends. she went to bed earlier than him, alone. and woke up to find him - drunk - FUCKING her. because, you know, that consent he had when they were going out was good for LIFE yo!
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Date: 2008-09-05 03:41 pm (UTC)But my favourite chat-up line is: "Does this smell like chloroform to you?" What am I going to do now?
*whines*
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Date: 2008-09-05 06:07 pm (UTC)but i handed in my sense of humour when they issued my feminist card (it's rule three) so i guess i wouldn't know?
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Date: 2008-09-05 06:34 pm (UTC)Would you, in other conversations on some other sort of crime, tell other people "Well, I assume you don't burgle, so you're probably okay" or "I assume you don't commit arson, so you're probably okay"? If not, why do you feel the need to do so when talking about rape?
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Date: 2008-09-05 07:02 pm (UTC)that would be the reason why - it's not the same conversation TO START WITH. and it's "the crime most often represented as a misunderstanding". which weirdly i am not really OK with. because that meme is the one of the reasons rape has suck a fucking abysmal prosecution rate. it's become an accepted cultural story. jesus, some women buy into it too. it makes me crazy!
so, fwiw it's not personal, but the framing of the discussion - well, i didn't build the frame, you know, but i think the frame is ugly and wrong and that certainly does influence my reactions.