What Is Wrong With the World??
Sep. 4th, 2008 11:56 am1. headline from bbcni re cervical cancer jab - "Girls urged to ABSTAIN in jab row"
why? Because its a dirty cancer you can get from SEX and obviously if you've been having sex you deserve it. Or... something.
More from the helpful FAQ here -
Colin Hart, Director of The Christian Institute, said the way to tackle the problem was not to offer injections, but to tell girls not to have under-age sex.
Ahh. So it's only *underage* sex that causes cancer. Good Girls won't get it, and thus don't need vaccinated. Well that's all clear then!
I know there are Other Issues around the vaccination and which version was chosen etc, but that's not what these people are saying. They're saying girls shouldn't be vaccinated against a potentially TERMINAL DISEASE, because then they might have sex! And we can't have that!!
Would there be the same outcry if it was discovered testicular cancer was also linked to a virus and teenage boys were offered it?
2. This article about date rape is making my head explode with WTF and RAGE. Because obviously if you go drinking with a guy who turns out not to care whether or not you're concious when he gets off on/in you, well that's YOUR fault you silly loose drunken woman. It's not like he's done anything WRONG, or should face any consequences for it! SKIN CRAWLING NOW.
SEND KITTENS PLZ. NEED HAPPY THOUGHTS.
ETA New Mistful Fic! and at lunchtime too. Couldn't have been better timed.
EDIT 2 - just to add, now the original RAGE has calmed slightly, this turned into a thought provoking discussion; a timely reminder the world isn't completley full of morons. Or at least my flist isn't ;) Thanks!
AAAAND if we can keep it civil kids, that would be good.
_unhurt_, I still have crutches. And I know where you live. Keep up the ranting tho. Rants Good. CIder better. MOAR CIDER
why? Because its a dirty cancer you can get from SEX and obviously if you've been having sex you deserve it. Or... something.
More from the helpful FAQ here -
Colin Hart, Director of The Christian Institute, said the way to tackle the problem was not to offer injections, but to tell girls not to have under-age sex.
Ahh. So it's only *underage* sex that causes cancer. Good Girls won't get it, and thus don't need vaccinated. Well that's all clear then!
I know there are Other Issues around the vaccination and which version was chosen etc, but that's not what these people are saying. They're saying girls shouldn't be vaccinated against a potentially TERMINAL DISEASE, because then they might have sex! And we can't have that!!
Would there be the same outcry if it was discovered testicular cancer was also linked to a virus and teenage boys were offered it?
2. This article about date rape is making my head explode with WTF and RAGE. Because obviously if you go drinking with a guy who turns out not to care whether or not you're concious when he gets off on/in you, well that's YOUR fault you silly loose drunken woman. It's not like he's done anything WRONG, or should face any consequences for it! SKIN CRAWLING NOW.
SEND KITTENS PLZ. NEED HAPPY THOUGHTS.
ETA New Mistful Fic! and at lunchtime too. Couldn't have been better timed.
EDIT 2 - just to add, now the original RAGE has calmed slightly, this turned into a thought provoking discussion; a timely reminder the world isn't completley full of morons. Or at least my flist isn't ;) Thanks!
AAAAND if we can keep it civil kids, that would be good.
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Date: 2008-09-05 12:53 pm (UTC)since you admit that that's a massive risk factor, why aren't you advocating that people maybe start with the BIGGEST risk factors and just do not have relationships - social, sexual or otherwise - with men?*
women are ALWAYS being told how to avoid rape. and it DOESN'T STOP RAPE. and then they get BLAMED WHEN THEY ARE RAPED because "if she had only [insert advice] i mean, i'm not saying it was her fault, but...".
if you actually followed all the advice you would have to live in a small metal box that no men could access EVER. you certainly couldn't work, or travel, or socialise, or hike, or jog, or eat out, or travel anywhere without a bodyguard. or, you know, have a LIFE.
also, theft is not ever a good parallel for rape. try picking an invasive physical assault not a property crime.
really, why does it cause an outrage to say that so and so are known risk factors (to get picky, the highest risk factor for being raped is being in a relationship with a man) and if you prefer not to get stolen from or raped you could start by avoiding them?
hmm. why does it cause an outrage? let me think. oh, wait, i know! because women do in fact TRY TO AVOID BEING FUCKING RAPED. jesus. do you think we skip merrily along in our little girly world never giving any thought to the notion? news flash: it's a primary MOTHER FUCKING CONCERN a lot of the time. my #1 issue when i cycle tour alone? is WILL SOME ASSHOLE RAPE ME IN MY TENT. welcome to planet "having a vagina"! "is that guy following me or just walking the same way?" "the car park is dark and the buisness park gates are locked - i hope no-one is lurking out there when i leave the office. i have my keys in my hand, where would i hit him? would it work? is there anyone around if i yell? what if he has a knife?" some weeks i get to have that conversation with myself FIVE TIMES. so excuse me if i think you should close your privileged pie hole. i have a job and a life and as a result i have to weigh the risks of living in a world that has men who rape people in it all the bloody TIME.
and, OH BOY. "prefer not to get raped"? maybe you should choose your language bettter. "prefer". i "prefer" semi-skimmed milk in my tea and cream in my coffee. i don't "prefer" not to get raped. i fucking FEAR it. (also the accompanying risk of, ooh, murder!)
what's with this meme that women just never really thought about it! and go about recklessly getting their silly selves raped!? but logical menz can put us right. why have we never thought of this before? oh MY. guess what? getting drunk and passing out doesn't get you raped. it requires a rapist who chooses to take that action for that to happen. and yet, conveniently all we ever talk about is what women could do differently. and you know what? women's actions are not the problem here.**
*apparently the lesbian seperatists were right all along!
**usual disclaimer excepting the tiny proportion of rapists who are female.
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Date: 2008-09-05 01:26 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-09-05 01:53 pm (UTC)