WTF?

Dec. 11th, 2005 11:07 pm
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4514906.stm

The WTF moment being not so much the removal of the painting but the fact that the complaints, from *men* included "Some said the picture would upset women".

Not women complaining.
No, MEN complaining that Ladies would be Upset by a rather vague drawing of MALE FLESH.

OH NOES! Quick quick, I'm hyperventilating at the very THOUGHT, someone loosen my stays and fetch my smelling salts and embroidery! Call for my carriage, I must be taken home before my tiny mind (assuming I have one) collapses entirely!

Seriously, What The Fuck?
Have we slipped back a century or two and no-one told me? Who ARE these men? Why do they still exist? Are they on day release?

PS on an entirely unrelated note, I hope none of you Englanders are on fire or getting smoked out

Date: 2005-12-12 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dasquian.livejournal.com
I think they are from the same stable as the people who told us that Jerry Springer: The Opera was evil and demanded that it be banned for our own good ;)

The only argument I can see for censorship on behalf of others is when the material is liable to increase social instability or crime... a cartoon piccie of a bloke with his willy out hardly does that, you can find thousands of examples in secondary school workbooks around the world.

Date: 2005-12-12 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whit-merule.livejournal.com
jerry springer practically is an opera already. all it lacks is the music.

Date: 2005-12-12 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whit-merule.livejournal.com
Hm. The only I've seen mentioned in a pub lci publication, let alone had a whoel article on it, in which the naem of hte composer is not mentioend once. At all.

Can't be very good music. :)

Date: 2005-12-12 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reuss.livejournal.com
We are not on fire! Although much of Greg's extended family lives in Hemel Hempstead (and all within 2.5 miles of the site), they are not on fire either, although for one of them, their loft hatch fell out of the ceiling (nb: not fell open, actually dropped out of the ceiling).

Date: 2005-12-12 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] being-here.livejournal.com
I personally was very upset by this depiction of unclothed male.

I was so offended that I had to go and look at lots of other pictures with naked men in just to check my outrage levels were sufficiently high.

Honestly ;-)

Date: 2005-12-12 06:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellison.livejournal.com
Hmm, I didn't think of that (being so overcome at the time). Perhaps I should try this. After all, maybe I'm not being outraged/upset enough!
Where to find the naked men plz?

Date: 2005-12-12 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thesme-01.livejournal.com
But he hasn't even got his willy out! There are no bits at all! I'm genuinely confused actually, I go to exhibitions and there are all types of bits all over the place....It sounds a bit Organised to me, could it be a hyperfundamentalist plot?

PS - Must tell the sister not to exhibit in England. She does men's bits in Xtra Thick Oil Paint - the men in question being her exes. When we went to one of her exhibitions all her dad could say was 'You know it's good when the penis follows you around the room'

He really did say that.

Date: 2005-12-12 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] being-here.livejournal.com
That's one of the ways you can tell if it's a good evening - the penis follows you around the room.

Date: 2005-12-12 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whit-merule.livejournal.com
Depends on the penis.
Or rather, waht's attached to the penis.
(technique, peopel!)

Date: 2005-12-12 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thesme-01.livejournal.com
a huge chocolate bar? (attached to the penis, that is>>)

(PS Ceirseach sorry about ranting on your journal I just can't stop myself when it comes to THAT FILM - not harry potter)

ararar
It's happening again

rarrr rarrrrrr rarrrrrrrrrrrr
Weeeeeeee'll sooooooon seeeeeeeeee whooooooooooo the beeeeeg fella is around heeeeere
*jumps up and down in rage*

Date: 2005-12-12 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whit-merule.livejournal.com
You ranted on my journal? I hadn't noticed that yet. :)

(Yes, that line annoys me too, I have to say.)

Date: 2005-12-12 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thesme-01.livejournal.com
I guarantee you not as much as it annoys me.

Really.

Q

Date: 2005-12-12 06:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellison.livejournal.com
Well she is the Queeeeeeeeen of theeee IIIIIIIIIIRsh peeeeeeeeepolll

Date: 2005-12-12 06:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellison.livejournal.com
ROFL I wondered if you'd spot that

Pervy dead relative fancier that you are :p

Date: 2005-12-12 07:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thesme-01.livejournal.com
I do not fancy my dead relatives thank very much.

Alan Rickman is not a relative and he is not dead

Nyar.

I thought I'd gone off him anyway, but he's pretty hot in Harry Potter...
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Date: 2005-12-12 05:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_unhurt_/
i need to know more about the hot gay cowboy movie... can you enlighten me?

Date: 2005-12-12 06:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellison.livejournal.com
Brokeback mountain. We HAVE to go see then when I get home. Jake Gyllenhal and Heath Ledger being Hot Gay Cowboys!

Date: 2005-12-12 07:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thesme-01.livejournal.com
Do they indulge?

*pantpant*

Date: 2005-12-12 07:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_unhurt_/
good lord, yes, we must! girly night out? hot gay cowboys + beer is probably up there with hot men in space (aka serenity) + beer. hurrah!

and back on topic... wtf? art galleries are full of naked lady parts! the whole story v. fishy - i lean towards the publicity notion.

Date: 2005-12-12 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellison.livejournal.com
I like the sound of that! Sometime over christmas?

Date: 2005-12-12 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_unhurt_/
after, if you haven't been by then? i return to the Homeland over the holidays.

Date: 2005-12-12 05:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malvino.livejournal.com
It might just be me being cynical, but is there actually any evidence at all that anyone complained, let alone 30 people?

If I was an art gallery that got 30 potential customers a day, trying to sell 'art' at £1200 a pop, in an expensive area of London, I just might have enough time on my hands to think up a way to get some free coverage, and possibly an impulse buy or two from the kind of person who will support anything that apparently outrages someone else, especially if there's censorship involved.

It might be co-incidence that this is also their first exhibition in their spanking new space, after having to move from Bond street... because they were ignored by everyone and had to downsize because couldn't afford the rent anymore.

Date: 2005-12-12 06:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellison.livejournal.com
Never thought of it that way, but you could be right. Nothing like a censorship storm to drum up publicity and getting people to come see what they're not allowed to.

Date: 2005-12-12 07:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thesme-01.livejournal.com
Hmm - the Bit plot thickens
Although feeling rather cheated since offending article exhibits NOTHING but ribbage! (And not red ribbed arousers either)

Date: 2005-12-12 08:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malvino.livejournal.com
It's tempting to go down there with a thick marker and give him a huge stork-on, problem is they'd then be able to claim £1200 from the insurance and get even more publicity. Perhaps I should just go down late at night and draw a cock on the woman (well, on the glass in-front of it) they put in the window to replace mr. floppy.

Date: 2005-12-12 08:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_unhurt_/
i think you must. and now i'm thinking:

Hermaphroditic porn. Starlets with both organs. You should see the box, beautiful chicks with dicks that put mine to shame.

sorry. too many viewings of 'clerks'.

Date: 2005-12-12 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellison.livejournal.com
It'd probably sell for more ;p

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